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totally_tea
29 dic 2019

  • Inglese (Regno Unito)
  • Finlandese
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Qual è la differenza tra valveilla e hereillä ?Sentiti libero di rispondere con un esempio.

I think that both words mean "awake", but I'm not sure if there is a difference in how they are used. Thank you!
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hilearningkorean
29 dic 2019

  • Finlandese
  • Inglese (Regno Unito) Quasi esperto

There's not a big difference

I think usually people use valveilla when you are awake but you are supposed to be sleeping.

People use the word hereillä way more often in natural speech

totally_tea
29 dic 2019

  • Inglese (Regno Unito)
@hilearningkorean Thank you!

Grammatically, would you use both words the same way?
e.g. Koko perhe oli valveilla. / Koko perhe oli hereillä.

And how would you say "I was awake until 2 in the morning?" or "I am awake and ready to learn!"
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hilearningkorean
29 dic 2019

  • Finlandese
  • Inglese (Regno Unito) Quasi esperto

@totally_tea Yes both of those sentences are correct. Usually if people use "valveilla" it's only in books or poetry

"I was awake until 2 in the morning"
"Olin hereillä kahteen saakka"

I am awake and ready to learn!
Olen hereillä ja valmis oppimaan!

Ask if you have more questions :)

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totally_tea
29 dic 2019

  • Inglese (Regno Unito)
@hilearningkorean Thanks again! That is super helpful.

Only one more question... Why is the word "kahteen" in "Olin hereillä kahteen saakka"? I guess it must come from "kaksi" but I'm not clear on what the -teen ending means.
hilearningkorean
29 dic 2019

  • Finlandese
  • Inglese (Regno Unito) Quasi esperto

@totally_tea it means "until 2", or "to 2"

Yhteen, to one
Kahteen, to two
Kolmeen, to three
Neljään,
Viiteen...
And so on
Hope that makes sense

hilearningkorean
29 dic 2019

  • Finlandese
  • Inglese (Regno Unito) Quasi esperto

That word ending is called "illatiivi" by the way. I think if you google it you might understand how it works more clearly :)

totally_tea
29 dic 2019

  • Inglese (Regno Unito)
@hilearningkorean Thanks so much! The examples make it clear, but I will google illatiivi as well to make sure I understand the grammar behind it.

I really appreciate your help :)
hilearningkorean
29 dic 2019

  • Finlandese
  • Inglese (Regno Unito) Quasi esperto

No problem 😊👍🏻

(I should also mention that illatiivi can be used for any word. For example

Talo, house
Taloon, to the house)

totally_tea
29 dic 2019

  • Inglese (Regno Unito)
@hilearningkorean Now that you mention it, I've seen illatiivi with places (taloon, Helsinkiin) but I didn't know it could also be used for numbers. Interesting! Thanks again :)
hilearningkorean
29 dic 2019

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@totally_tea 👍🏻👍🏻☺️

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