Heya! I just want to kind of clear my head out of these thoughts In regards to an "A/An" in arabic. Since "ال" is a definite equivalent of "The", the "A/An" is pretty much nonexistent in Arabic. But i was just a little bit curious if both of these sentences still have some nuances.
FOR EXAMPLE:

He is a student.

هوطالب Huwa Taleeb.
VS.
ٌهوطالب Huwa Taleebun.

I watched some video online in regards on the definite and indefinite articles. They said that you should put a "tanween" in the end of the اسم for a proper grammar I guess. So i want to know if even saying the first one like "Huwa taleeb" is fine and correct even though grammatically "Huwa taleebun" is correct. Thank you soo much in advance!🙏🙏

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Heya! I just want to kind of clear my head out of these thoughts In regards to an "A/An" in arabic. Since "ال" is a definite equivalent of "The", the "A/An" is pretty much nonexistent in Arabic. But i was just a little bit curious if both of these sentences still have some nuances.
FOR EXAMPLE:

He is a student.

هوطالب Huwa Taleeb.
                VS.
ٌهوطالب Huwa Taleebun.

I watched some video online in regards on the definite and indefinite articles. They said that you should put a "tanween" in the end of the اسم for a proper grammar I guess. So i want to know if even saying the first one like  "Huwa taleeb" is fine and correct even though grammatically "Huwa taleebun" is correct. Thank you soo much in advance!🙏🙏

RayenDz · Answer

Yeah , in spoken arabic you can ignore not only the tanween but also any final mark on the last words and also "ة"   
For exmple : 
هي طالبة مجتهدة وهو طالب كسول
Hiya taaliba mujtahida wa huwa talibun kasuul

NOURA_X · Answer

Yes, it’s completely correct, the tanween is simply for grammar purposes, colloquially we don’t use it

Visitor_ · Answer

Let me clarify this, here we are only talking about Standard Arabic and this has nothing to do with dialects.

First the tanween is the equivalent of the English a/an
al = the
n (tanween) = a/an 
Second there is a general rule in Arabic:
"العربية لا تبدأ بساكن ولا تقف على متحرِّك"
In Arabic you don't start with a vowelless consonant and you don't pause on a vowel.
And to be exact you don't pause on a short vowel or tanween when you stop, at the end of a sentence, in pronunciation. But in writing, the Harakaat (حركات) have to be written, and even in pronunciation when the tanween and short vowel are omitted, the latter are still there in the mind of the speaker and the listener.

هو طالبٌ.
Pronounced: huwa Taalib

هو طالبٌ مجتهدٌ.
Pronounced: huwa Taalibun mujtahid

هو طالبٌ مجتهدٌ كثيرًا.
 Pronounced: huwa Taalibun mujtahidun *katheeraa

(* in speech the short Dammah with tanween and short kasrah with tanween at the END of a SENTENCE are omitted, and the short fatHah changes to a long fatHah, for example: شكرًا جزيلًا shukran jazeelaa, as for taa' marbouTah ـة, it changes to haa', for example ٌهي طالبة hiya Taalibah)

هو طالبٌ مجتهدٌ كثيرًا في دراستهِ.
huwa Taalibun mujtahidun katheeran fee diraasatih.

هو طالبٌ مجتهدٌ كثيرًا في دراستهِ الجامعيةِ.
Huwa Taalibun mujtahidun katheeran fee diraasatihi ljaami3iyyah.

هو طالبٌ مجتهدٌ كثيرًا في دراستهِ الجامعيةِ العليَا.
Huwa Taalibun mujtahidun katheeran fee diraasatihi ljaami3iyyati l3ulyaa.

And so on, as long as we speak, we use short vowels and tanween, but once we stop we omit them, and even when they are dropped they are still there in the mind of the speaker and the listener. This rule as I said is general, it was used in Classical Arabic and in the Holy Quran. For further information you can read about "pause in Arabic language" الوقف في اللغة العربية

Visitor_ · Answer

@silenttori  You're welcome, it's really a pleasure 😀

Mariam97 · Answer

In standard Arabic, when you stop talking, you don't need to pronounce the last haraka/tanween in the last word

Like when you listen to the Qur'an you notice that the Reciter doesn't pronounce the last haraka /tanween when he stops to take a break or 'cause the verse has ended

If you're not Muslim you can check out this link 

https://www.alfanous.org/ar/aya/?sortedby=score&recitation=28&query=%D9%84%D9%83%D9%86&fuzzy=True&translation=en.shakir&page=1&unit=aya&view=default

Ex
النافذةُ مغلقةٌ
The window is closed

The grammatical pronunciation will be 
An_naa_fi_tha_tu muغ_laقa_ton 

But the natural pronunciation 
An_naa_fi_tha_tu muغ_laقa 

As for in dialects 

you don't need to be accurate in grammar and writing

So generally we don't pronounce the Short vowels ( ـً ـِ ـُ... etc),

'cause if you change some haraka حركة ( short vowel) in some word, maybe You will get another different meaning.

So to avoid this problem , you talk without pronouncing the harakat ( short vowels) in the end of the words

ex
ثلاثُ ساعاتٍ three hours
ثalaaثu saa3aaten (saa3aat) 

In real life
ثلاث ساعات
Talat sa3aat

/ ثalaث sa3aat








A text about the harakat and tanween 

There are three short vowels (حركات) 

ضَمَّة Damma ـُ 
placed above the letter to represent a (short u) sound

فَتْحَة fatha ـَ 
placed above the letter to represent a (short a) sound

كَسْرَة kasra ـِ
placed below the letter to represent a (short i) sound 

التنوين the taween : a doubled short vowel, placed at the end of the noun to indicate that the vowel is followed by the consonant n

تنوين الضم ـٌ 
Gives the sound : on
A teacher معلمٌ moعl_lemon

تنوين الكسر ـٍ 
Gives the sound : en
In a small home 
في بيتٍ صغيرٍ
Fee bay_ten صaغee_ren 

تنوين النصب ـً 
Gives the sound : an
A teacher معلماً moعl_leman
_
You know like in English, used a/ o/ i/u.. etc to indicate the short sounds 

We also have what it's called أحرف العِلَّة for the long sounds 
ا aa _ و oo  _  ي ee

ماهر skilled maaher.. ـا : aa
دامي bloody daa_mee  ـي : ee
رَسول messenger ـو : oo

And the short vowels for the short sounds

مُمْتِع interesting mum_teع 

You see مُـ mu ـتِـ te 

قَضِيَّة issue قadey_ya

قَـ : aق

ضe :  ـضِـ 

ـيّـ 
There're two letters yaa' ـيْـيَـ.   y_ya
So we use the shad_da to merge them in one letter 

So
e/i ; kasra.  ee : yaa'
U/o : Damma.   oo: waw ـو 
A : fat_ha   aa: alef 

Sound like two letters : you put shad_da on the letter 

There's no short sound with the letter, so you put sukoon سُكون on the letter,  

كُلْ ما تريد
Eat what ever you want 
kol maa tureed
Notice we say just l ـل 
Not lu.. Le.. La

Sometime you say كُلَّ شَيء
Kol_la shay' 

Ko :  you say كُـ
l_la :  ـلَّ
So كُلَّ every  kol_la
And so on 

About the double short vowels 
التنوين ِِِِ/ at_tan_ween

library مَكْتَبَة makta_ba 

With tanween :
makta_ba_tan  مَكْتَبَةً

after a while, you don't need to write the short vowels 
But now you use 'em for learning
_

for the record

For tanween an_naseb تنوين النصب 
You don't need to add an extra ALEF in the ending, if there was : 

1  Taa' marbuta ـة 

مدرسة Like   مدرسةً school 
Mad_rasa.... Mad_rasa_tan 

2 Hamza ء 

سماء Like..... > سماءً sky 
Smaa'..... Smaa_an

3 ALEF  همزة قطع  ـأ  

Like  خطأ  error..>  خطأً 
خaطa'.... خaطa_an 

4  ALEF ( hamzat wasel همزة وصل)
عصا  stick....> عصاً 
3aصaa
3a_صan 

5 Or ALEF makصoora  : ى
   
مستشفى hospital .... > مستشفىً 
Mus_tash_faa
Mus_tash_fan

As for the rest words 
You add an extra ALEF ( without a hamza)) ا / ـا) 
Like كتاب book.... > كتاباً

Also 
Some people write the tanween on the letter which is before the ALEF 

Like 

كتاباً will be :
كتابًا 

مستشفىً 
They write it : مستشفًى 

So that's up to you

I think 
In the Levantine region, we prefer to write 
كتاباً.. مستشفىً

In Egypt and KSA 
مستشفًى كتابًا

Mariam97 · Answer

@silenttori أهلاً وسهلاً

omarfaris · Answer

In real talk you may ignore all signs and tanween too

Yeah , in spoken arabic you can ignore not only the tanween but also any final mark on the last words and also "ة" For exmple : هي طالبة مجتهدة وهو طالب كسولHiya taaliba mujtahida wa huwa talibun kasuul

Yes, it’s completely correct, the tanween is simply for grammar purposes, colloquially we don’t use it

In real talk you may ignore all signs and tanween too

@silenttori You're welcome, it's really a pleasure 😀

@silenttori أهلاً وسهلاً

Fai domande a utenti madrelingua gratis

Yeah , in spoken arabic you can ignore not only the tanween but also any final mark on the last words and also "ة"
For exmple :
هي طالبة مجتهدة وهو طالب كسول
Hiya taaliba mujtahida wa huwa talibun kasuul