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poeric
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Come si dice in Russo? bad boy\girl,
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Интересует противоположное, как англоязные kids говорят плохой\ая мальчик\девочка. Для меня bad boy\girl звучит как "плохие парни\девки".
Спрашиваю здесь п\ч в англоветке ответа не дождешься
Жду, в первую очередь, ответа от тех, кто реально сталкивался с современными кидами.
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Johnny_Smithy
27 gen

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naughty boy/girl

troublesome boy/girl

Guber
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У детей англофонов свой язык )) Это надо спрашивать детей -носителей. Bad boy и Bad gir, это не просто плохие парни и девки . Back in 1735, a volume of John Stirling’s A Short View of English Grammar used the expression bad boy as part of a grammar lesson. But like so many grammar lessons through the ages, it was also a moral lesson: he was a boy who would lead himself and others to “sin and harm.” In these early printed examples of the phrase, there was nothing appealing or good about being a bad boy. Bad boy took on the more desirable connotations of “rebel” in the mid–1800s. This was helped by Thomas Bailey Aldrich’s semi-autobiographical novel The Story of a Bad Boy (1870), credited as a first in the bad boy genre of literature. In 1883, George Wilbur Peck developed the mischievous, prankster character of the bad boy, known as Peck’s bad boy, who would go on to influence characters like Dennis the Menace and Bart Simpson. In 20th century popular culture, the bad boy increasingly became the object of sexual attraction. These brooding, mysterious men stood in contrast to the rule-following but boring nice guy, and were idolized as real-life actors (e.g., James Dean) or fictional characters (e.g., Tim Riggins on Friday Night Lights). In the 21st century, many relationship articles have weighed the pros and cons of falling for the bad boy, with Psychology Today explaining how their attractiveness lies in their projection of confidence and power as they break the mold. These bad boys are also popularly spoken of as having something “broken” in them some women hunger to fix. Since at least the 1960s, a bad boy has referred to some excellent specimen, often used of high-powered cars or other vehicles, e.g., this bad boy can get up to 100 MPH easy. This bad boy was notably featured in 2014 with the Slaps Roof of Car meme, which featured a car salesman hitting the roof of a car while showing it to a prospective buyer and saying something along the lines of: “This bad boy can fit so much [X] in it.” Like most memes, it inspired variations featuring things other than cars.

У детей англофонов свой язык )) Это надо спрашивать детей -носителей.
Bad boy и Bad gir, это не просто плохие парни и девки .
Back in 1735, a volume of John Stirling’s A Short View of English Grammar used the expression bad boy as part of a grammar lesson. But like so many grammar lessons through the ages, it was also a moral lesson: he was a boy who would lead himself and others to “sin and harm.” In these early printed examples of the phrase, there was nothing appealing or good about being a bad boy.
Bad boy took on the more desirable connotations of “rebel” in the mid–1800s. This was helped by Thomas Bailey Aldrich’s semi-autobiographical novel The Story of a Bad Boy (1870), credited as a first in the bad boy genre of literature. In 1883, George Wilbur Peck developed the mischievous, prankster character of the bad boy, known as Peck’s bad boy, who would go on to influence characters like Dennis the Menace and Bart Simpson.

In 20th century popular culture, the bad boy increasingly became the object of sexual attraction. These brooding, mysterious men stood in contrast to the rule-following but boring nice guy, and were idolized as real-life actors (e.g., James Dean) or fictional characters (e.g., Tim Riggins on Friday Night Lights).

In the 21st century, many relationship articles have weighed the pros and cons of falling for the bad boy, with Psychology Today explaining how their attractiveness lies in their projection of confidence and power as they break the mold. These bad boys are also popularly spoken of as having something “broken” in them some women hunger to fix.
Since at least the 1960s, a bad boy has referred to some excellent specimen, often used of high-powered cars or other vehicles, e.g., this bad boy can get up to 100 MPH easy. This bad boy was notably featured in 2014 with the Slaps Roof of Car meme, which featured a car salesman hitting the roof of a car while showing it to a prospective buyer and saying something along the lines of: “This bad boy can fit so much [X] in it.” Like most memes, it inspired variations featuring things other than cars.

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poeric
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@Johnny_Smithy naughty - really? In my perceiving it sounds ehmm... naughty, sorry
If kindergarteners and primary schoolers say so? Eg 5 yo kid
Or what moms say: Don't befriend him\her s\he is ...?
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poeric
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@Guber Спасибо за подробный экскурс
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shuraalexandra
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@poeric У Санты ведь список хороших и плохих детей это Naughty or Nice list.
И можете на ютубе посмотреть, например, серию видео Naughty or Nice with Jimmy Kimmel and Guillermo, где у маленьких детишек спрашивают, не делали ли они anything naughty, нет знают ли они naughty kids и т.п. Никто и бровью не ведёт - дети вероятно и не догадываются, что у этого слова есть и сексуальный подтекст.

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Johnny_Smithy
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@poeric As I see, no one here has suggested anything else. According to your statements "bad" has some sexual meaning, "naughty" has some sexual meaning. Although in English student's books the words NAUGHTY, BAD are widely used in the meaning "плохой", and TROUBLESOME means "плохой" sometimes "проблемный". Maybe you only hear what you want to hear? If you need some sexual meaning, remember the word SLUTTY.

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